{"id":9041,"date":"2022-01-04T21:07:00","date_gmt":"2022-01-04T20:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/monodes.com\/predaelli\/?p=9041"},"modified":"2022-01-04T14:07:37","modified_gmt":"2022-01-04T13:07:37","slug":"is-the-macos-gui-development-scene-really-this-bad","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/monodes.com\/predaelli\/2022\/01\/04\/is-the-macos-gui-development-scene-really-this-bad\/","title":{"rendered":"Is the macOS GUI development scene really this bad?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Paul Walker<\/a>Follow<\/a> on last summer<\/a> asked Is the macOS GUI development scene really this bad?<\/a> <\/p>\n\n\n\n

That’s a question I’m interested in because while I’ve been using exclusively Linux since 1997 I strive to write portable programs. Most people are still “shackled” into proprietary operative systems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

He enlist Swift, JavaScript, C#, Python, Clojure, Rust, Go, Objective C and C++.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

He ended up using Xamarin.Mac<\/a>, i.e. C#; it’s from Microsoft. While Microsoft has changed a lot since the days of the Halloween documents I still feel that I can’t trust them. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

I want to use “my” language, Eiffel, with “my” compiler, Liberty Eiffel.<\/a> I can’t abandon it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

And while many people uses JavaScript, Paul correctly argue that things like Electron are huge beasts. I grew up programming Commodore 64 and Amiga, it’s simply a sin in my opinion such an approach. If I have to use JavaScript, I shall leave it in the browser.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I could use Python, or at least interface with it. I haven’t appreciated his statement about Gtk:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Python and Gtk \u2014 well, it\u2019s Gtk. If I wanted that kind of pain I\u2019d just bang my head against the wall repeatedly, it would be quicker and easier.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

Then there’s another statement:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Plus I think I\u2019d have to buy a Qt licence to distribute whatever I wrote (assuming I don\u2019t make it OSI compliant<\/a>). I\u2019d like to have a choice in that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

That’s exacty why base libraries shall be written in LGPL or non copyleft licenses.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Paul WalkerFollow on last summer asked Is the macOS GUI development scene really this bad? That’s a question I’m interested in because while I’ve been using exclusively Linux since 1997 I strive to write portable programs. Most people are still “shackled” into proprietary operative systems. He enlist Swift, JavaScript, C#, Python, Clojure, Rust, Go, Objective…<\/p>\n

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